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    Fiery Furnaces Call Radiohead 'Bogus'

    • Posted on Nov 3rd 2009 4:00PM by Ken Micallef
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    When the Fiery Furnaces -- the sibling duo of Matthew and Eleanor Friedberger -- recorded 'I'm Going Away,' they adjusted their usual penchant for mad rhythms, inscrutable vocals and dizzily complex arrangements to create an album Matthew calls "more casual than our past records."

    "The records in the past were made up of simple rock songs," he tells Spinner. "But the simple songs on 'I'm Going Away' are kept within the most obvious genre confines. Hopefully, for people who know the band, that's different and amusing. For people who don't know the band, they can relate to it how they would any song. In the future we will have our simple rock songs be less simply disposed of, but for this record we wanted the songs to be as casually arranged as possible. Well, maybe, almost."

    An operatically-inclined and classically-trained pianist who enjoys such '70s rock icons as Harry Nilsson and Randy Newman as well as Richard Wagner, Matthew is well-versed in rock history. "Our model is album rock of the early '70s," he explains. "We like bubblegum and the singles of the '70s and '50s and '60s. We think of that period when pop musicians still felt the need to change and develop and it had to be good, though nobody knew what good meant. People were free then to be pseudo-intellectual about rock records and we agree with that mentality. But by the late '70s and mid '80s, bands were beginning to do the same old thing, so that commercial model is outdated. That doesn't mean that we feel obligated to change for commercial purposes. We think albums have to be different, otherwise you're a sellout and a fraud and you should hang it up. If you're concerned about selling T-shirts, you're a fraud. 'You're cheating the kids,' as Pete Townshend would say."

    When told that Radiohead's Thom Yorke sent out a mass e-mail describing the group's tribute song to the UK's last veteran of World War I, 'Harry Patch (In Memory Of),' Friedberger adds the British rock star to his fraud alert list. "'Oh, please listen to our new song about Harry Patch,'" Friedberger says mockingly. "F--- you! You brand yourself by brazenly and arbitrarily associating yourself with things that you know people consider cool. That is bogus. That's a put-on. That's a branding technique and Radiohead have their brand that they're popular and intelligent. So they have a song about Harry Patch.

    "How's the song?" Friedberger asks. "Is it 48 notes to the octave? What does it have to do with Harry Patch? Oh, my wife says I am being very rude. She doesn't like me insulting Radiohead. She's afraid they will send their lackeys through the computer to sabotage us. But they needn't worry -- we are a band that sabotages ourselves."

    'I'm Going Away' is available now.
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    Cupcakeat 11-03-2009

    so i guess Thom Yorke isn't allowed to appreciate the last surviving WWI veteran's strong messages and make a song out of it because that's 'selling out'??
    It just so happened that Harry Patch died a few weeks after they finished recording the song. So giving out the song to donate money for a good cause... is selling out?

    Jeez, if he's gonna bash Thom about 'selling out', he should talk about the TWILIGHT movie, not freaking HARRY PATCH. Matt's not making any sense.

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    Damien Oat 11-04-2009

    I gotta say... It's a real shame he had to say something like that. I'm a fan of both bands, radiohead moreso, and to hear someone from the furnaces say something like this definitely casts a stigma on them. It's a pretty brash, vague attack.

    what if he was writing, and it's just what 'came out'? people don't ask for inspiration, it just happens.

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    So Long Dental Planat 11-03-2009

    WW1 veterans are the New Coke!

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    personat 11-03-2009

    "Is it 48 notes to the octave?"

    dear fiery furnaces dude:
    you seem to be confused.
    harry patch was a war veteran
    harry paRtch was a composer who developed a scale with 43 notes
    get ur facts straight?

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    macarenaat 11-04-2009

    Superb show. Utterly owned by internet comment, well done Fiery Furnaces. Not only missing the point by several hundred miles but also getting the number of notes wrong.

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    Austinat 11-04-2009

    I think this is pretty bad form, on their part.

    Bands really should keep their mouths shut when talking about other bands, unless the comment is going to be positive. Slagging off a band that are more popular/widely recognised makes them look pretty bitter and envious.

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    Sophieat 11-04-2009

    I'd say that Thom Yorke's left eye is at least nine or ten times more talented and thoughtful than this guy

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    Barnaby Wyldeat 11-05-2009

    Is that the wonky one?

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    FailedSitcomat 11-04-2009

    I met Matthew Friedberger at a gig a couple of years ago, and I can honestly say that he was one of the nicest musicans I've had the pleasure of meeting.

    Also, as an American musician, I think it's understandable that he mistook Harry Patch for Harry Partch (which would explain him considering the song pretentious).

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    catat 11-04-2009

    Well done. You're thinking of Harry Partch.
    How does the saying go...better to reamin silent and be thought a fool than to...oops.

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    elenaat 11-04-2009

    I agree with FailedSitcom, Matthew is one of the nicest musicians I've met and it makes me sad people are jumping on his throat for a misunderstanding.

    Pitchfork said his publicist even rectified the statement:

    According to Matthew Friedberger's publicist, Friedberger thought the Spinner interviewer was asking about Harry Partch, not Harry Patch.

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    justinat 11-05-2009

    misunderstanding? did he even hear the song? did he listen to the lyrics? he was mouthing off over something he hasn't a clue about. even if radiohead did have a song about harry paRtch, why would it have been branding necessarily? couldn't radiohead have genuine respect to make a song? what the fuck does he know to the conclusion that it's 'branding', because radiohead are successful? matthew just sounds like a moron. say what you will about radiohead's music, it isn't really the issue here. maybe he was high.

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    Jon O.at 11-05-2009

    That the Fiery Furnaces are mocking anybody else about put-ons and pretense totally beggars belief. Yes, I'm sure bands regularly contemplate recording an album with their grandmother.

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    CoreyBeanat 11-05-2009

    Can you imagine how dumb he must feel now that he knows what was actually being discussed?

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    Monty Coleat 11-05-2009

    I honestly can't understand how anyone can accuse Radiohead for selling out. I'm not even a radiohead fan and I know this. These are the guys who were so famous for "Creep" so they came out with Kid A. These are the guys who put their album out for free and asked for a donation if anything. I'm honestly confused. Is he just jealous?

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    Daveat 11-06-2009

    The guy didn't even get the facts about the song right. He's clearly just trying to get publicity for his band or else he's being ironic and trying to make the point that creative people are morons. Good luck trying to promote Fiery Furnaces, Matt. Most creative people don't pay much mind to your work.

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    Frowny McBagelchipsat 11-05-2009

    Matt's STILL smarting about how none of his co-workers at Loch, Stock, & Bagel recognized his early brillance OR his totally rad Guided By Voices vinyl collection he had WAY before ANYBODY else was worshipping/copying Pollard....

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    Jasperat 11-05-2009

    The Fiery Furnaces are so pretentious it kills me! They try so hard to be obtuse, yet not so obtuse that people cannot grasp their obvious wit...

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    Kilgore TroutA Quick One While He's a Poutingat 11-05-2009

    Oak Park cushy, smirking, suburban "hey, I left there, I moved to Brooklyn and have read all the very best books. Oh, another thing, I emerged this way, I'm the real thing, not any of those other guys with tousled hair and cool clothes, I'M the real thing"

    Meet the new indie rock, same as the old indie rock...or as Pete sang, "Your oil' fogvinin"

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    brentat 11-05-2009

    I like the FF but radiohead a lot more... just seems like he doesn't like the song, but it shouldn't mean that he has to put down an entire catalog of radiohead's songs. I can't say i loved the harry patch song, and since when was harry patch cool... but i'm not going to dismiss radiohead because of it. Show us what you really got FF and write a song as good as radiohead.

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